The road to this has been long and tough, but we have finally joined the ranks of the PACSed. Most of the other people in our lives think this is a much bigger deal than we consider it to be, either because they’re French and want us to have a party, or because they’re not French and don’t know what it means. Let me explain.
What is a PACS? In French, it’s a pacte civil de solidarité, which translates to a civil solidarity pact, or essentially a domestic partnership. The closest thing we have in the US is a civil union, but it’s not the same thing. It’s not recognized in other countries, so I’m still legally single in the US, but in France we now have to mark legal papers as “pacsé” instead of “celibataire”. It’s a legal status that states that we live together and allows us to declare taxes together. Additionally, it will allow me to apply for a visa called the visa vie privée et familiale, or a private and family life visa- more on that in an upcoming post. You can find another explanation of the PACS on the Angloinfo website here.
The process to get PACSed in France is relatively straightforward, and unlike a visa, as long as you have all the paperwork, you shouldn’t have any issues. The only condition is that you have to live together; as a result, it’s possible for roommates to get PACSed either for the tax benefits or to have the chance to apply for this visa.
We got incredibly lucky- I went to the tribunal of Paris’ 11th arrondissement on Thursday 1 September. As the woman was going through our paperwork, she mentioned we would need to bring another birth certificate for D. I asked why, as I had thought they were valid for 3 months. She said that the next appointments weren’t until December. Given that my visa expires in November, she gave me back the dossier, and as I was packing up I offhandedly told her that we were going to have to do it through a notary for 390€ but it was better than going back to the States. I was about to leave when she said “ATTENDEZ” (“wait!) and told me that (from what I understood) two couples had canceled their appointments yesterday. She went into the computer to look at the closest available appointment. When she said 9 September, I legitimately teared up. She gave me the convocation for the appointment and said “je vous ai economisé quatre cent euros! I saved you four hundred euros!” I thanked her profusely and danced out the door. She did end up calling to change our appointment time from 11:45am to 11am, and was nice enough to not only call back after leaving a voicemail the first time, but called again the day before to ensure that I had the correct time.
The PACS process generally goes something like this:
1) Live together. That’s the prerequisite, and it doesn’t matter how long you’ve lived together, though generally if you’re entering into this kind of union you probably should have lived together awhile. The other prerequisites are generally common sense: you have to be majeur, or not a minor, in your home country; legally competent to make these decisions; not already married (including in your home country) or PACSed; or be related to each other. So if your cousin is French, even if you live with them, you can’t get PACSed with them. That wouldn’t be allowed. And would be weird.
2) Gather the paperwork.
Together you will need:
- a PACS contract written yourself (you can find a template here)
- a PACS contract filled out (this one)
- an attestation sur l’honneur (on your honor) of no family relation between partners (this one)
TIP: Technically you need one of each attestation for each partner, which we weren’t aware of, but the woman at the tribunal just had us both sign the one form we had and it was okay.
The French partner will need:
- a copy of their birth certificate dated within 3 months, which can be ordered from the mairie, or city hall, of the person’s location of birth. If your appointment ends up being more than 3 months away, you’ll have to order another one. These are free and can be mailed to your home even if you live elsewhere (D is from Marseille and his were sent to us in Paris- there were 3 copies in the envelope)
- a form of ID issued by the government (EU ID card, passport) and a photocopy
The foreign partner will need:
- their passport and a photocopy
- a copy of their birth certificate issued within the last 6 months and accompanied by a certified translation. You can find your state’s online ordering system here if you’re American, and I used this translation service in Paris for my translation.
- TIP: It’s better to find a certified translator in France than to do it in your home country, just to ensure that the translation is appropriately certified. My translator will mail the translation to you, or you can find one in your area of France using this list. Depending on where you’re from, you may also need the birth certificate to have an apostille- if there’s an option to order a birth certificate for the purpose of marriage, choose that one.
- a non-PACS certificate dated within 3 months. UPDATE END 2017: The responsibility for this has been moved to the Service central d’etat civil in Nantes. The request paper can be downloaded here and you can either mail it or email it to the addresses listed in the drop-down marked À qui transmettre ce formulaire? on that same page linked above.
- a certificate of non-inscription au repertoire civil, or basically a paper saying that they have not had any run-ins with the law. This is only needed if the foreign partner has been living in France for more than a year. UPDATE END 2017: This paper is now combined with the non-PACS certificate and is ordered from the same place. The request paper, mailing address and email address can be found here.
- a certificate of coutume, or custom, from the diplomatic representation of your home country in France stating that you are not a minor, are legally competent, and are not married/in a civil partnership in the home country. If you’re American, you’ll have to come to the US Embassy in Paris to have this paper notarized and can make an appointment here.
3) UPDATE 2017: As for 1 November 2017, all PACS registrations will now take place at the mairie, or town hall, of where you live. Once you have all the paperwork together, go to the mairie (in Paris, there’s one for each arrondissement) to make an appointment. You will need the entire file, as well as both partners’ passports, to make the appointment, but only one partner needs to go make it. The appointments are often several months away, so you may need to re-order certain papers if they will be invalid by the time of the appointment (like the certificate of non-PACS or the French partner’s birth certificate).
4) Go to the appointment and get PACSed! Both partners will need to bring their passports, as well as a recent housing justification (EDF bill, rent bill, etc).
Now what? The mairie will give you a receipt for the PACS that is valid for 3 months for whatever you need it for during that time, while they register the PACS with the city hall of the birthplace of the French partner (it will now be noted on their birth certificate) and with the Tribunal de Grande Instance of where you live for the foreign partner. After the 3 months, you will need to request a PACS certificate in order to prove that you are PACSed.
Note: A PACS does NOT automatically give you the right as a foreigner to stay in France. You must still have a valid carte de séjour to stay in the country legally. It DOES give you the right to apply for the vie privée et familiale carte de séjour if you can prove one year of living together.
- French partner birth certificate: free
- Foreign partner birth certificate: varies (mine cost around $90USD to order it and have it shipped to France)
- Certificate of coutume: depends on the country (for the US it’s currently $50/45€, payable in cash at the appointment)
- Other certificates: free to order
- Appointment at the tribunal: free
- TIP: Don’t do it at a notary unless absolutely necessary! I got a quote for a notary at 390€- so expensive! However, if you’re in a time crunch, it’s cheaper than returning to your home country.
As we walked out of our appointment, D wrapped his arm around my waist and kissed me, eliciting claps from a man in the waiting room and smiles all around. Definitely a different atmosphere than what I’m used to in French bureaucratic offices!
Et voilà, that’s how you get PACSed in France! Now for the hard part…
Update 2017: I got the vie privée et familiale carte de séjour with the PACS! Read about how I did it here!
Photo: Patrick Colpron
I recently got Packed too, also in the 11th. It’s a great idea to list all the steps you took to get there. It can definitely be confusing for the non french! I totally agree with the sentiment ‘Most of the other people in our lives think this is a much bigger deal than we consider it to be’ we didn’t get any clapping or anything afterwards either…i think we both just went back off to work :-p
Hi!thanks for the information.can you tell me how long did you wait to get visa after you pacsed?
Hi! I got PACSed in September and had my visa appointment in January, so 4 months total. It’s definitely possible to do it sooner though if you have a year of proof of living together already!
What kind of visa you have ?
This picture is just sooooo adorable- can’t get enough! Woo, also can’t wait to celebrate with you next week eeee
hey there, thank you for the very helpful blog post. were you ever able to get your carte de sejour from your Pacs? if so, what was the process like? my boyfriend and i are in the process of getting a pacs and we are concerned about the time restraint we have to get a cds afterwards.would love any insight, thanks!
Hi Mik! Apologies for the delayed response. I got my CDS about a month ago and have written a post about it here: http://www.theglitteringunknown.com/pacs-visa-vie-privee-et-familiale/. I hope it’s helpful, and that if you’ve already applied for the visa that you were successful! All the best!
hi emily! Thanks so much for your blog posts they are so extremely helpful! I am currently on a long stay student visa which started this past September! my boyfriend and i plan to get pacsed in the next couple of months, but I’m curious to know how soon after that I am able to apply for the visa? I plan to apply in the summer which is when it will be a year of living together. Will this interfere with my student visa? Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks!!
Hi Erica! I’m not sure I understand the question… you apply for a renewal/status change before your current visa expires (the appointment should usually be made 4-5 months in advance). Even if it’s more than a year of living together (and you have proof of all that), it won’t interfere with your student visa because they won’t overlap- you’ll change status when you renew. I have a blog post that details the procedure of getting the VPF carte de sejour if you want to check that out! Best of luck!
Hi, we are looking to get Pacsed so my Australian boyfriend can get a carte de sejour to stay here with me. I have an EU passport (Britain) and we think this will be simpler than him flying back to Sydney for a long stay visa. We have been together for 7 years in Australia and now just house sitting in france for 1year. His 90 days runs out in January
Hi Kaylene, he will have to have a long stay visa before he can get a carte de sejour with the PACS. Not sure if it will be possible to get one for France given that you’re not French, but worth looking into. Regardless, you probably won’t be able to get a PACS appointment before February if you make it now. There’s a working holiday visa that Australians can get for France so that will probably be the easiest way for him to stay here for awhile while you figure out the next step. Good luck!
Ohh I got PASSED on 9th September (2015) as well.
I’M STILL waiting for mon titre de séjour. I had to renew my récépissé at least 3 times. but I’m happy that I can work legally in France and be with my French lover 🙂
Hi I am French and I am going to PACS my American girlfriend.
I wanted to know if we could go to our arrondissement’s tribunal or not as I read here :
“Attention ! Le tribunal de grande instance de Paris a une compétence nationale dès lors qu’un des contractants est de nationalité étrangère, ce service se trouve à l’adresse suivante :
Immeuble “Le Brabant”
11, rue de Cambrai 75945 Paris Cedex 1
Horaires d’ouverture : 9 heures à 17 heures
Metro ligne 7 – Corentin Cariou
Ce service reçoit le public, enregistre les PACS, délivre des certificats de PACS ou non PACS aux intéressés, aux notaires et tiers.
Therefore do I have to go to the 19th one ?
We are also afraid of the time between the appointment and when we set it up ?
Also, there is no delivery date on her Birth Certificate so she can make a translation in French directly without asking for a new birth certificate in the US ?
Last question, the meeting for the ‘certificat de coutume’ and the document that will be signed there : is it valid for a certain period of time ?
Thanks so much for your answers… Getting PACS is so hard apparently ! Hope we will make it happen like you !
Hi Yoan, as I said in the post, you’ll go to the tribunal of your arrondissement to make the appointment for the PACS. The rue de Cambrai address is to get the certificat de non-PACS, but you can also order it online at the link I included in the post. There may be a long time between when you take the date for the appointment and the date itself; it depends on how busy the tribunal is. We got incredibly lucky that we got an appointment as soon as we did. No, you need to order a new birth certificate from the US or it won’t be valid. This is actually really important, but you can order it online for most states. The certificat de coutume doesn’t expire as far as I know, so you can make the appointment for that while you’re waiting for all the other papers. It’s a lot of work but it’s worth it- good luck! 🙂
Thanks for your reply.
Our last problem is that we realized that her birth certificate from the state of viriginia did not come with an apostille. Is that a big deal ? Did you have an apostille with your birth certificate ?
The French administration told me it could be ok without it (as long as the translation is certified).
some other person in the french administration told me that she really needs it… What are your opinion/experience ?
We want to do things now as the other document will be out of date… and if we have to put an apostille on the birth certificate, we will have to send the doc back to the us and wait for weeks…
Thanks so much !!
Hi Yoan, honestly I’m not sure. When I ordered my birth certificate I ordered the one for marriages and had no issues with it. Honestly it would be a lot easier to just re-order a new one; I did it online for my home state of North Carolina and received the new certificate in a week, delivered by UPS. You can always try without it, but it may not be worth the risk of them turning you away and saying you need one.
Thanks. So you mean the one for Marriage automatically comes with the “apostille” ?
Then we may wanna do that i guess.
Sorry my keyboard is just doing lower cases.
I guess so- honestly I’m no expert on this but I figured if it was good enough for a marriage it would be good enough for a PACS. I have no idea what it even looks like without the apostille so I’m not really the person to ask about this! I will say that when I reordered the most recent certificate it came in about a week or so, so it’s pretty quick when you order it online.
So, just to keep you posted and to help maybe other person thanks to this experience… :
they refused us to drop the files, because they really expect the apostille… The thing is that we have to send the birth certificate back to the US to the secretary of state to get an apostille on the birth certificate (the vital records of the state of virginia could not do it as it is independant from the secretary of state). It could have been possible to ask them to forward the document directly to the secretary of state …. Anyway, so we have to do that and then we will be good. We are just afraid of the timeline as it may be hard to get an appointment before the end of the year in the 5th arrondissement :/
Have a great day and thanks again for this usefull above post you wrote.
Hi Im an Australian currently in frANCE WITH MY FRENCH GIRLFRIEND AND WE ARE LOOKING TO GET PACS, I ONLY HAVE 90 DAYS HERE AND WAS WONDERING WHAT OPTIONS DO I HAVE OR HOW I CAN EXTEND MY VISA WITHOUT LEAVING THE COUNTRY?
IF I GOT PACSD WOULD I BE ALLOWED TO EXTEND MY STAY HERE IN FRANCE?
Hi Lycidas, no, you need a long stay visa in order to extend your stay in France. Unfortunately there’s no way to legally do it while on a tourist visa and still in the country.
Do you mean the long stay visa can’t be applied to once in France ?
( My American boyfriend would like to come live with me and he still is in the US. we wonder if he will have to come here, get PACSed and then go back to ask for a visitor VLS-TS there in order to have the one year together… )
Hi Jenny, all first demands for long-stay visas must be applied from within the US. If you look at the dates from my this post and the visa post, you’ll see that we were only PACSed for 4 months before I got the carte de séjour. The year-long requirement for living together is based on communauté de vie, not on how long you were PACSed, so as long as you have a year’s worth of bills or papers in both names at the same address, you’ll be fine.
Ok, I understand. so it means that he will first have to get the long stay visa from the US, then come here to get the one year of living together. It looks like we are at the beginning of a long road !! I hope the visitor visa isn’t too hard to get, I guess he would have to find an other purpose than getting PACSed… Congratulations and thank you !!
Good day, me and my girlfriend are not French nationals and only I work now. We live together in France, can we apply for PACS status France? Would be a considerable reduction in the income tax and remaining cash in hand figure in our home.
Hi Garcia, you can definitely get PACSed to each other as foreign nationals in France. However, I’m not sure if it would allow you to get a visa. Best to check with the prefecture!
We don’t need visa , we are both EU nationals. We have been living together back home in her appartment for 2 years but I don’t have any paperwork to prove this.
If we live here together in a rented apartment , do we need any paper from our landlord to testify that we live togerher?
Is PAcs applicable if we are in a long distance relationship? I am currently working in singapore while he is in France. We met 1 year ago and travelled several times together but have not live together. thanks
Hi Luna, as I said in the post, it is a legal status that means that you live together and pay taxes together, so no. It would only work if you moved to France full time.
Thank you so much for this helpful information, you are awesome for sharing. I can see how madly in love you guys are, and I am glad for you. my french boyfriend and I are very much in love, however we have only lived together 1 month. At the moment, I am back in my country and we have decided to go for this “pacs”… It seems a hard work though… well nothing is impossible when there is love… God help us.
Hi Jestan, thank you- we really are in love! However, you won’t be able to apply to get PACSed until you are back in France and living with him again. Good luck!
thanks for your great post! We have used it to prepare for our PACS 🙂
I have a question though – not about the CDS or visa for private and family life which you were able to get after some time of being PACsed.
My question is about taking the PACS contract that we will get from the Mairie, and using it in my application for a Long Stay Visitor Visa at the French Consulate in Sydney.
DId you get a Long Stay Visitor Visa using your PACS? I am happy to not work in France for the period of my visa, and can sign a Stat Dec about that, and show sufficient funds to support myself for the duration of the visa too.
I am just wondering what kind of information was needed to get the Long Stay Visitor Visa so that I can be best prepared, as it is an expensive and time consuming exercise going back to Australia and SYdney specifically, to do the appointment – and there are no clear guidelines on the website.
THanks so much, and congratulations!!
Hi there! No, I was on a student visa and already living in France long before we got PACSed. I personally would not recommend telling them that you’re PACSed to a French citizen, if you got PACSed here and weren’t already on some kind of long-stay visa (working holiday for example). Visitor visas especially are seen as temporary ways to live in France for a limited amount of time, so they’re not super keen on the idea of people coming over on this visa in order to stay here long-term. You can find the list of papers you need to apply for the long stay visitor visa on the consulate website, but you seem to be aware already of the major things they look for ask for!
Oh okay! THank you for that information – that’s really helpful.
No problem! Of course it would depend on who you get- perhaps the consulate workers are nicer in Aus than they are in the US. But if you are willing to sign a paper saying you won’t work while here and have enough funds to support yourself (you can also have your French partner send their last 3 bank statements and a signed letter saying they’re supporting you, even without the PACS paper), it’s highly unlikely they’ll say no!
does anyone know how long you have to live with the person you want to get PACS? or is it 1 year minimum?
someone told me you can do it after 3 months of living together but I dont know if its true. I havent read about it. 🙁
Hi Cristie, you can get PACSed at any point when living with someone. The minimum requirement is for the carte de sejour, not for the PACS.
ok, Thanks for the info 🙂
HI There! I have a quick question about the PACs contract that we have to bring to our appointment.
YOu have listed both a Pacs contract that we write ourselves, and a pacs contract that we fill out. Do we need to bring both of these contracts, or is it either or?
Hi Abby! We brought both, but I’m not sure you need both as they state essentially the same thing. I’ve updated the links but they both redirect to the same page now, leading me to think that you need the one you fill out. They’ll tell you when you make the appointment if you need another one!
Hi Emily, thank you for your response! 🙂 We will Plan to do as you suggested then. I have two final questions for you:
(1) I happen to be going home for a brief period of time, and I wanted to confirm that it is not required that the certificat of cotume be notarized at an embassy. I would like to do it with a notary while I’m back home, if possible.
(2) I received a certificat of non-pacs that also states that i am not ‘inscrite au répetoire civil.’ Essentially a two-for-one certificat. Do you know if I am supposed to have two seperate certificats or if this one should work to prove both?
Thank you very much in advance for your information & advice!!
Good day. me and my girlfriend are Romanian (part of EU) and decided to get pacsed . After getting all the documents from our consulate and all the translations necessarry we deposited our dossier at the local Mairie. That was in beggining of December , how long before we get an appointment? We kind of need it now in order to apply for “logement sociale” housing. My employer told me we have a much bigger chance to get it if we are pacsed so I hope we don’t have to wait many months for this.
Hi Garcia, when you gave them your documents, if your dossier was complete they should have given you an appointment then. I would suggest going back and asking.
Hello again , the dossier was complete when the lady took it , she already turned us back two times before because we were missing some attestation from our consulate regarding our birth certificate. She did not say anything about the date and wrote our phone numbers on the dossier , only told us they will call us to make the appointment later but nobody called so far.
In that case, I would definitely go back to find out what’s up. French administration sometimes needs to be hassled- a lot- in order to get them to actually do their jobs. Don’t be afraid to be pushy!
1) On the bottom of the certificat de coutume, it says “Aucune autorité fédérale américaine n’est habilitée à délivrer de certificat de coutume. Il n’existe pas d’état-civil centralisé aux États-Unis.” Fairly certain this means that only a notary at the embassy can notarize it, but if you’re not sure, check with your mairie.
2) Sounds like you’re good to go on that then! When you go to make your appointment, if they want you to have another certificate, they’ll tell you, or you can just walk in and ask if that will be sufficient.
Thanks so much for this post it’s so unbelievably helpful! Can i just ask how long it took for your non-inscription au repertoire civil to come though? thanks
So glad you like it! I think mine took about a week to come in? Not too long, but it varies depending on how busy they are.
I tried going to the tribunal d’instance de paris today at Rue Cambrai, it seems they have changed the procedure so that you cannot ask for the certificat de non-pacs in person but must refer to the Ministère de l’Europe et des Affaires Etrangères office in nantes…!
I’ve heard this, I think they changed it on the 1 November when they moved all the PACS procedures to the mairies. Thanks for the update, I’ll change the post!
Let me first begin with THANK YOU, your blog post was way more helpful than any prefecture, etat civil, or embassy/consulate (who literallu hung up on us when we asked questions) could’ve been to both SImon and I.
So here’s the deal…Simon and I met during out exchange semester last year and fell wildly in love, so fast foward to today were considering pacsing as I’m american and he’s french, but we have a question that no government body seems to be able to answer for us.
1. When we’re pacsed does the visa granted to me actually allow me to work? or can i just reside in France?
We talked to a law firm, they said the visa from pacsing doesn’t allow me to work so it would be kinda pointless cause I would love to work and not just rely on my beau working hard.
I really hope to hear from you soon!
Hi Gina, I’m so glad you found the post helpful! Basically being PACSed doesn’t give you the right to a carte de séjour, it’s just a factor that is taken into account if you apply for a CDS vie privée et familiale. However, being on this status and having this carte de séjour DOES allow you to work. It’s the same type of carte de séjour that married people have (they just have to prove 6 months of vie commune instead of 1 year like with the PACS). I have a blog post about how I got this CDS linked at the bottom of this post if you haven’t seen it already! Hope that helped 🙂
Hi Emily. Your blog on PACS has been very helpful. I am from Los Angeles and I need to order my birth certificate. Did you process everything online (BC application, sworn statement (notarized) and payment) or did you have to mail in the application and a check or money order and mail in a sworn and notarized request for your BC?)
I am on this site https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CHSI/Pages/Vital-Records-Obtaining-Certified-Copies-of-Birth–Death-Records.aspx and not sure if you used an alternative method for processing everything quickly?
Thank you so much for your help!!
Hi Koquis, I’m afraid I won’t be much help in this department because every state processes these requests differently. I’m not from California and my process was much simpler than yours sounds (I ordered mine online using a site called VitalChek and it took 5 minutes). I would recommend checking with the authorities in California as they will have much better/more up to date information than I possibly could.
I was able to order using the same site you used so thank you so much for being so helpful throughout this process.
I am not sure if you have already answered this question for someone else but for the birth certificate translation, I am using the same site you recommended and would like to know which option you used? 1. translation online using scanned documents/photocopies or 2. did you submit all original documents in person?
Thanks again, so much, for all the helpful information.
Hi Koquis, I used the translation online with the scanned documents. The mairie shouldn’t take your original birth certificate (in fact, don’t let them given how expensive they are and annoying to get) so you can just have the copy certified and then make photocopies of the translation as well. I still have my original birth certificate and original stamped translation in my possession- you should always only give the government copies. So glad you found my article helpful!!
Thanks for all the information, very helpful. Im filipino with a french boyfriend. I understand that I would need a long stay visa before getting pacsed. live together in france for at least a year then apply for cds privee et familiale. However, while waiting for 1 year, I can apply for the CDS visiteur which will not allow me to work. If you’ve also done this, please share your journey. Thanks!
hi Eya, i am also a Filipino who is looking to get PACSed so I could be with my french boyfriend. Have you done the long-term visitor visa and got PACSed? Hoping for your response. 🙂
Hi Micah, I have a friend who came on a long stay visitor visa and got PACSed with her French boyfriend. The key is just to put as many bills in both of your names as possible (they opened a bank account together). She then switched her status to the VPF so she could stay here with him 🙂
Thanks for your great post! It helped us a lot! We managed to get PACSed last December, and I am wondering what happened to all the (expensive) translated documents we submitted> Also, do you know when we receive the official document? We just got a receipt. Do I go back to the Mairie and ask for the dossier to be returned?
Thanks for any help you might have!
Hi Jo! You only get the 3 month receipt because that’s how long it supposedly takes them to officially “register” your PACS with the national authorities. If you need another paper proving you’re PACSed, apparently you can get another one from your mairie (if you got PACSed in December, I’m assuming you did it at the mairie) by showing some form of ID (reference: https://www.service-public.fr/particuliers/vosdroits/F21538). If you want the original documents back, you’ll have to go ask for them as well- don’t take my word for this though, as I made sure they didn’t keep things like the original birth certificate at our actual appointment and thus didn’t have to go back to ask for them. For future reference, you can always bring the original and a copy and have them keep the copy; this is valid for almost all French administrative affairs involving PACS and cartes de séjour, especially if you tell them how much it cost to have the silly thing translated. Good luck getting them back!
Thank you so much for your reply! That’s really helpful.
Hello! Echoing everyone else, great post 🙂
Just curious how long it took you to get your files ready to get pacsed
It took me a little over 3 weeks, but I had some luck with a few documents coming quickly. Despite how quickly the service civil d’etat Was in responding to my request, it was the certificat de non-PACs that took the longest, everything else was together in two weeks.
Hello! I am so happy that i found you’d blog!
Thank you so much 😊
I am Russian and my boyfriend is English, but has a house in France. We have been living together in Germany for 1,5 years and have all of the paperwork now we finally want to move to France..
I have a German student visa, I don’t know if that’s valid in France but I am still doing my research:)
We will try to get PACSed there, thank you very much!
me and my fiancee are getting pacs’ed on Thursday! i am south african and she is french. we met in china 2 years ago and started dating soon after, we got engaged in south africa 2 months ago as we what to get married in 4-5 years. now for the problem, I am currently here on a short term visa ending in december, what do i have to do after getting pacs’ed so that i don’t have to leave the country as it is one hell of an expense to get back to south africa just for a new visa.
thanks in advance,
Hi, My boyfriend(who is French) and I (am American) have been living together in the USA for quite some time now, and he wants to go back to FRANCe to get his phd. we are trying to figure out if it is possible to get PACsed while still living in states so that I can go with him. Does anyone know if this is possible or do you have to be living together in france for it to qualify?
Hi Julia, you have to be living in France together to qualify. The PACS is a tax status, nothing more, and doesn’t give the right to the carte de séjour in any case. Hope that helps!
I am a male French resident with 14 years habitation here and originally from the UK. I recently found a Russian man who wants to live with me. Is there any hope for us?
Hello, this is a very helpful post, thank you!
I’m trying to decide if PACs or marriage is a better (and quicker/less paperwork) option for my and my boyfriend, so that I can stay in France with him. I’m American and he is French.
We’ve been together almost 2 years now, I had a 6 month visa de long sejour earlier this year followed by a 3 month tourist visa, so that was an ‘uninterrupted’ period of living together for 9 months, but since that tourist visa expired I’ve been back and forth to the US and france as time allows.
If we get pacsed on a Schengen visa, and can prove 1 year living together, can I immediately apply for the CDS vie privee from within france, or do I have to go back to the US to do that?
Or alternately if we get married on a Schengen visa, can I apply for the CDS immediately?
What kind of proof do they need of vie commun? My name is not on any of his bills.
Or regardless of the situation, I’m going to have to go back to the US to apply for vie privee visa to stay in france?
thank you for any help!
I am in the same situation. How did you resolve your case?
“If we get pacsed on a Schengen visa, and can prove 1 year living together, can I immediately apply for the CDS vie privee from within france, or do I have to go back to the US to do that?”
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Congratulations on your PACs. I’m a British woman getting PACsed to my long-term French partner in a few weeks.
There is one detail in your advice which does not match with the official advice from our Mairie – it is not necessary to have lived together BEFORE the PACs, but the couple must build a communal life including living together at the same official address after they are pacsed.J
My husband is pakistani and pacsed with french girl. After that he got citizenship in france. Now both want to dissolve the pacs and want to live separate. Will dissolving the pacs create any problem for his documents or citizenship? Will this thing put any wrong impact at his documents or french citizenship?? Please help me
It won’t cause any problems as far as I’m aware. A PACS is automatically dissolved when either one of the partners marries someone else.
Hey! Im currently in the process of trying to get PACS’d with my partner here. How did you stay in France if your visa expired in November and get a family visa in January? We are going to get pacs’d next month and my visa expires August, but we will not have lived together for a year until September. I am currently freaking out because a friend of mine said she knew someone who was deported because of this.. any help would be amazing. Thanks!
Hey Jay, I’m not an expert however I believe if you make an appointment with your prefecture before the date your current visa expires, you’re officially/unofficially allowed to overstay your current visa. Someone else might be able to confirm this for you, however this is what I did and what I expect she did as well.
Does anyone know if they keep your document originals at the Mairie appointment? Specifically I need to keep my birth certificate and translation for applying afterwards for the vie privée et familiale CDS.
Thanks for the blog, this post in particular, I’m from New York, and it’s been really helpful in going through the PACSing process with my wonderful French partner. When we went to the marie to make our appointment, they did NOT accept my birth certificate because it didn’t have the apostille.
I just wanted to let everyone know this is an important step to verify when ordering your birth certificate (especially if it’s going through Vital records and not directly from a state.) Getting a copy with an apostille is a fairly complicated process in NY and will set us back at least a month, definitely wish I’d known earlier in the process.
Best of luck to you and everyone else going through the joys of French bureaucracy.
I am currently looking for the ‘attestation of the common address of the partners’ form and the link on your website isn’t working.
Thank you for writing this post!
I have a quick question, lets say that i get pacs(ed) a couple of months before my current tourist visa ends. will i be able to stay here in france and work legally etc with me being pacs? or will i need to go back to the states and wait for my long stay visa before i could come and live here? like would i need to go back and forth if we are pacs?
Thank you so much
Hi, Emily! I’m from Brazil and i’m Dating a french for one year and a half. Now i’m Planing to move and I wanted to know one thing about the pacs. To do it, we need to live together for a while?
Thank you so much for your posts!
Hi there, your blog was so helpful to us getting PACS’d, thanks very much. We have now had our récépissé for more than three months and would like to ask for the certificate. could you tell me where in Nantes to apply and what we have to write. Do we include the actual or a copy of the récépissé? Thanks so much if you can answer, I’ve Looked all over the Internet trying to find out.
Best wishes to you, Jo
Do you have to provide a proof of your financial statement or its your partner who has to do?
Thank you for this resource! One link is kaput now — the one for “an attestation sur l’honneur”
I used the form name from the URL and I think this is the new home for the form:
Great eye, Chris! Thanks for looking out. I’ve actually found a better link than the one you shared here (you don’t need to put in your email address) and have updated the post 🙂
Thanks for the info. It has been helpful.
However, I have some questions that I need answers to. I think you can help me out.
I am from Nigeria, met the love of my life in France while I went for a training of one week (Tourist visa, Short stay). We have been dating for over a year. We are planning on getting PACSed in a few months times after I get another tourist visa as I had to go back to my home country.
How possible is it for me to get PACSed with the tourist visa and how can I get the CDS as I only come to see him over the holidays (Christmas and Summer)?
I need to know how it works before I give my final decision in getting PACSed. As every French person I have asked say it’s a big commitment.
anyone know how to get the birth certificate sent to you when they demand monet order or cash and a prepaid self return envelope? i asked if i could pay extra for Wyoming to send but they said they cannot and we dont have a prepaid option at the post and no fedex , i am 4 hours from paris so the fexed isnt an option there
Did you need an apostille for your birth certificate? Very confused as to whether or not this is necessary